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In this episode, Toby and Krisztian welcome their first proper guest: Alan Richardson, a 30-year software veteran and testing specialist known as Evil Tester. They dig into testing in the AI era: how to test AI-generated code, whether TDD still makes sense with AI, why self-healing tests are a red flag, and how AI is opening up security and adversarial testing. Alan makes the case for architecture-first development as the key to getting good test output from AI agents.
https://techleaguepodcast.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/techleague-podcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/techleaguepodcast/
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tech-league/id1852602975
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1zx8UIe2EjawuVU3I31fdP
Chapters
0:00 Introduction and guest intro: Alan Richardson (eviltester.com)
2:00 Why testing matters more in the AI code generation era
5:30 Architecture-first: good code leads to good tests
10:00 Does TDD work with AI? Why it mostly doesn't
14:30 Playwright and UI tests: the abstraction problem
23:00 Information theory and what testing actually is
27:00 Adversarial AI testing: using AI to exploit your own CVEs
33:00 Security scanning tools vs penetration testing with AI
38:30 Domain expertise still matters
43:00 Generalist vs specialist in the AI era
47:00 The junior developer pipeline problem
51:00 Will AI homogenise software and design?
54:00 Wrap-up
Links:
Evil Tester https://eviltester.com
Playwright: https://playwright.dev/
Agentic EQ: https://agentic-qe.dev/
Vite: https://vite.dev/
Claude : https://claude.com/
Snyk: https://snyk.io/
Aikido: https://www.aikido.dev
Hacker One: https://www.hackerone.com/
Wiz: https://www.wiz.io/
By Toby Sears & Krisztian FischerIn this episode, Toby and Krisztian welcome their first proper guest: Alan Richardson, a 30-year software veteran and testing specialist known as Evil Tester. They dig into testing in the AI era: how to test AI-generated code, whether TDD still makes sense with AI, why self-healing tests are a red flag, and how AI is opening up security and adversarial testing. Alan makes the case for architecture-first development as the key to getting good test output from AI agents.
https://techleaguepodcast.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/techleague-podcast/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/techleaguepodcast/
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tech-league/id1852602975
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1zx8UIe2EjawuVU3I31fdP
Chapters
0:00 Introduction and guest intro: Alan Richardson (eviltester.com)
2:00 Why testing matters more in the AI code generation era
5:30 Architecture-first: good code leads to good tests
10:00 Does TDD work with AI? Why it mostly doesn't
14:30 Playwright and UI tests: the abstraction problem
23:00 Information theory and what testing actually is
27:00 Adversarial AI testing: using AI to exploit your own CVEs
33:00 Security scanning tools vs penetration testing with AI
38:30 Domain expertise still matters
43:00 Generalist vs specialist in the AI era
47:00 The junior developer pipeline problem
51:00 Will AI homogenise software and design?
54:00 Wrap-up
Links:
Evil Tester https://eviltester.com
Playwright: https://playwright.dev/
Agentic EQ: https://agentic-qe.dev/
Vite: https://vite.dev/
Claude : https://claude.com/
Snyk: https://snyk.io/
Aikido: https://www.aikido.dev
Hacker One: https://www.hackerone.com/
Wiz: https://www.wiz.io/