In this “informal” episode, David and Katie sit down with no notes and talk about the question of when does grace become enabling as it pertains to the Church and society. David and Katie wrestle with the question of “when did not holding the same belief as someone mean you were intolerant, close-minded, or hateful?” This is the type of conversation that is held in the Tozi household and in this episode, David and Katie simply have it in front of the microphones.