00:53 - Chris’s Superpower: Derailing conversations and having a knack for taking complex tasks and breaking them down into smaller, simpler parts that people find easy to understand.

01:44 - The Pitch for Vanilla JavaScript

03:06 - Peoples’ Biggest Challenge as a Developer

05:50 - The Problem With The Way We Do Things Today

08:30 - Modern Web Development

11:42 - A Better Approach To Web Development

17:15 - CSS and JavaScript

25:05 - The Notion of Development At Scale

27:45 - Silos Of Technology

31:10 - Complexity And/Or Simplicity

37:20 - Advocating For Vanilla JavaScript

44:10 - Gradual Movement Of The Code Base

45:30 - Using The Word “Just”

49:30 - The Concept Of State

52:45 - Use Of Static HTML

53:40 - Do Companies Actually Build For The Web Like This

58:05 - Summation Of Positives Of Vanilla JavaScript

Reflections:

Rein: Pick the thing that reduces your suffering the most.

Jacob: If you are just starting to learn JavaScript, it is ok to not learn a framework immediately. It is also ok to dive into something else and come back to learn vanilla JS. Also, Noel Rappin - Modern Front-End Development for Rails, takes a great approach to using differing technologies and what they can bring to your project.

Chris: Thinking about the instances where it does make sense to use some of these tools as opposed to reasons why you shouldn’t use them. Liked the talk about minimizing your pain.

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