Contagious Culture

#171 | Unleashing Everyday Creativity with Caroline Brookfield


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In this episode of the Contagious Culture Podcast, Kyle King sits down with Dr. Caroline Brookfield, veterinarian, speaker, consultant, comedian, and self-described professional cat herder.

Caroline explains how creativity and mindfulness help leaders navigate ambiguity, respond to change, and make better decisions without becoming overwhelmed by uncertainty. She introduces the DANCE Framework, a practical approach that encourages daydreaming, curiosity, novelty, comfort with ambiguity, and delaying judgment during the creative process.

Kyle and Caroline also discuss why leaders often say they want creativity while unconsciously rejecting unfamiliar ideas, how psychological safety allows teams to contribute more fully, and why sometimes the best response to change is not to fight harder, but to pause, observe, and consider new possibilities.

Key Topics
  • Using creativity and mindfulness to navigate uncertainty
  • Why leaders unconsciously resist unfamiliar ideas
  • Creating psychological safety for curiosity and innovation
  • The DANCE Framework for developing creative thinking
  • Pausing, adapting, and responding differently to change
  • Episode History

    00:00 — Introduction and meeting Dr. Caroline Brookfield

    01:00 — What it means to be a professional cat herder
    02:30 — Creativity, mindfulness, and tolerance for ambiguity
    04:00 — The DANCE Framework for stronger creative thinking
    06:00 — Why leaders should stop editing ideas too early
    09:00 — Why leaders resist creativity and protect the status quo
    12:00 — The riptide lesson for navigating change
    14:00 — Pausing, curiosity, and building psychological safety

    Dr. Brookfield's Bio

    Dr. Caroline Brookfield is a veterinarian, professional speaker, consultant, comedian, and self-described professional cat herder.

    Her work focuses on helping leaders and organizations build creativity, adaptability, and confidence during periods of uncertainty and change. Drawing from her experiences in veterinary medicine, emergency care, wildlife health, stand-up comedy, and organizational consulting, Caroline teaches people how to think differently, manage ambiguity, and create environments where new ideas can thrive.

    She is also the creator of the DANCE Framework, which gives leaders and teams practical habits for strengthening creativity and navigating uncertainty.

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