“We need an abundance of the things we need — safe homes, good jobs, healthcare — not an abundance of consumption.”

- Saul Humphrey

Winston Churchill once said, “We shape our buildings; thereafter they shape us.”

Saul Humphrey is a UK-based leader and sustainability advocate, a professor of sustainable construction at Anglia Ruskin University, and Vice President of the Chartered Institute of Building. He’s also the founder of an eponymously named consultancy practice that integrates sustainable design with practical innovation. The arc of his career bends towards reducing carbon impact and creating long-term resilience in the built environment.

With both realism and hope, Saul and Andy explore the tension between growth and sustainability; what “abundance” means in an ever-warming world; how our built environment shapes our collective destiny; and how we can reimagine construction as an act of care for future generations.

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The drop seeps whole

from boulder-lichen

or ledge moss and drops,

joining, to trickle,

run, fall, dash,

sprawl in held deeps,

to rush shallows, spill

thin through heights,

but then, edging,

to eddy aside, nothing

of all but nothing’s

curl of motion spent.

Show Notes:

• https://www.sauldhumphrey.com

• https://www.ciob.org

• https://www.humannature-places.com

• Values: Building a Better World for All by Mark Carney

• Abundance: The Future is Better Than You Think by Peter H. Diamonds and Steven Kotler

• Kuni: A Japanese Vision and Practice for Urban-Rural Reconnection by Tsuyoshi Sekihara, Richard McCarthy, and Kathleen Finlay

• #148 It Makes a Village (with Jonathan Smales)

• #157 Eco-Responsive Envrionments (with Soham De & Prachi Rampuria)

• #158 The Neutral Project (with Nate Helbach)

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