**Summary:**

In Episode #176 Ari – joined by special guest host [Kavon](http://thesolefocus.com/) of the Less Doing Mastermind Group – interviews Jeremie Rodger, a [Couch Surfing](https://www.couchsurfing.com/) veteran and 26 year-old entrepreneur with a natural knack for taking roads less travelled in order to find success. Tune-in to hear Ari and Jeremie talk automation and outsourcing in meticulous detail!

**Special Announcements:**

## [Rockefeller Roundtable](http://helmsociety.com/ari-me