The Measure of an Episode: Star Trek Edition

179: Discovery Season 4


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Prepare for a huge revelation! And it's not what you think.

0:00 - Latency

0:30 - infidelity vs high fidelity

0:59 - intro

1:10 - dating this episode

1:20 - criteria

2:00 - the start of a joke

2:16 - the punchline of a joke

2:39 - the reference of a joke

3:05 - Austin Powers syndrome (comment if you get THIS reference)

5:43 - Oh look, Burnham is right

6:08 - why argue with Michael?

6:29 - DEEP Star Trek cut

7:09 - Oh look, Burnham is right

7:44 - Nothing says sci-fi like talking heads

9:06 - Forget it's Star Trek and it's good!

10:38 - Trek, Wars, is anything new?

11:39 - When is Star Trek not Star Trek?

12:46 - What makes Star Trek Star Trek?

13:18 - Solving a problem, for sure

13:36 - Having time to mull it over as well

14:50 - Problem to solve AND time to solve it

16:22 - Not adrenaline, but still riveting

17:45 - Presenting the solution but not

18:46 - Proper sci-fi? Proper Star Trek?

20:33 - Alternate script ideas

21:09 - when ambience becomes superliminal (Simpsons)

22:10 - Even Poker feels Star Wars

23:02 - Barrier Galactica (Battlestar Galactica)

26:16 - our first payoff!

26:42 - is this right? Comment below!

27:07 - how wrong are we on this? This feels wrong in retrospect

27:44 - how popular is Earth pop culture of the '50s? (Gilligan's Island)

28:28 - colloquial ignorance

29:59 - dating references (Gambit)

31:20 - are we... changing our criteria??

32:00 - We are!

32:27 - More deliberation?

33:29 - Watching the process! Trust the process!

34:01 - Rewriting Criteria 2

34:59 - DMA details (Corodite - He-Man)

35:17 - actual sci-fi vs technobabble

35:48 - Lack of discovery in Discovery

36:50 - Specifying Criteria 2

38:18 - Final Verdict, Bub

38:49 - Still a better love story than Twilight (Twilight)

39:24 - Star Wars tangent

40:14 - Jumping from a certain point of view

41:09 - inertial dampeners

42:22 - outro

42:32 - Paul loves to leave these insensitive water-toeing

43:00 - there was supposed to be a LONG pause here

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