Rob and Jon kick off this week’s podcast with some amazing Friday night banter: Graphic file formats. We talk about redesigning death, Tate’s brand refresh and look at a new cut of the classic typeface Johnston.

As our nation teeters on the edge of being European, we turn our attention to notebooks: the debate consuming the nation.

Jon’s pie this week is a surprise early Fathers’ Day gift. Rob sets fire to his mouth with a hot one.