New York's "Sleep No More" is probably the most successful piece of immersive theatre of all time. But there are thousands of moving parts to this magical machine. Guest Cesar Hawas likes to describe the parts of this creative ecosystem as just that, magic, but there are tons of insights to how an arts company can get such an expensive building and keep it running and profitable. Cesar talks about the more ethereal parts of Sleep No More (run by the production company Emursive) and all of the inspiration that surrounds it at the McKittrick Hotel in our first remote episode recorded outside of California.

5:55 - Cesar Hawas

https://mckittrickhotel.com/

https://www.instagram.com/cesarhawas/

https://twitter.com/heypiece?lang=en

http://lebalrevue.com/

6:01- The Lodge at the Mckittrick Hotel

https://mckittrickhotel.com/gallow-green/

7:34- When and why The Lodge opened

8:50- http://immersivedesignsummit.com/

10:05- What are the different experiences you can have in the McKittrick Hotel?

https://mckittrickhotel.com/sleep-no-more/

https://mckittrickhotel.com/manderley-bar/

https://mckittrickhotel.com/the-heath/

https://mckittrickhotel.com/gallow-green/

12:53- Creating complicated experiences

13:36- Film VS Broadway and theater

13:53- Have you done any productions on the West Coast?

14:51- Cesar talks about working on Broadway

https://www.broadway.com

15:08- Did you go to theater school?

17:39- Cesar goes into detail about acting

18:28- What was the first moment that you discovered Immersive theater/entertainment?

21:43- Cesar goes into detail about Sleep No More and why it is powerful

https://mckittrickhotel.com/sleep-no-more/

22:10- Noah Nelson:

https://noproscenium.com/

https://twitter.com/NoProscenium

Check out Artist Real Talk episode 11 with Noah Nelson:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000379844107

24:23- The Queen Marry

http://www.queenmary.com/

27:53- Jacob asks Dino (Think Tank Creative Art Director), "when was the first time you were exposed to Immersive Art?"

29:26- What have you been hearing about Star Wars Land?

https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2018/02/12/disneys-new-star-wars-hotel-will-seamlessly-connect-to-galaxys-edge-at-hollywood-studios

30:32- https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingimmersive/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

33:03- Sleep No More's intention

33:43- How many times have you seen the show?

35:33- Cesar talks about one of the powerful aspects of Sleep No More

38:18- http://immersivedesignsummit.com/

Sara Thacher Walt Disney Imagineering Research & Development

https://www.disneyresearch.com/

40:25- Dino shares his experience at Sleep No More

42:13 Is there any sort of guidance that you guys give on this?

43:31- Jacob's worst fear

44:27- https://www.punchdrunk.com/

45:41- Cesar discusses following the narrative and the correlation between McBeth and Hitchcock

48:35- Jacob explains how he is happy with his choice of not reading MacBeth before Sleep No More

49:18- Is this the second time the show has been mounted; because it also happened in London.

49:25- Cesar breaks down the history of Sleep No More

https://www.punchdrunk.org.uk/sleep-no-more/

https://americanrepertorytheater.org/node/635

52:20- Sleep No More's audience

52:44- Cesar and Jacob touch on how there is no dialogue in Sleep No More which making it easy for people of every language to experience and enjoy

54:36- The most exciting aspect of Sleep No More

55:22- Supercinema at the McKittrick Hotel

https://vimeo.com/166848947

Supercinema - Clue

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh2fSsypV34

Supercinema - Wizard Of Oz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1KMDShfWOc

Read more about the Supercinema parties:

https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/The-McKittricks-Supercinema-Parties-to-Channel-CLUE-Tim-Burton-MOULIN-ROUGE-20161202

http://www.theatermania.com/new-york-city-theater/news/supercinema-to-celebrate-clue-moulin-rouge_78399.html

http://www.theculturefiles.com/supercinema-nyc-guilty-party-clue-tickets/

57:52- Jacob touches on how being a host is a difficult task

58:35- https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/candytopia-happy-place-exhibitions-temporarily-close-la-1069964

https://www.timeout.com/los-angeles/blog/happy-place-is-l-a-s-latest-selfie-inspiring-pop-up-111817

1:02:47- Inclusiveness

59:09- The Universe is a Small Hat Trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bfo3aDD0p4&feature=youtu.be

Learn more here:

http://theuniverseisasmallhat.com/

1:04:02- Jacob asks Cesar if they survey people about their experience at Sleep No More

1:08:03- Does the art direction or improvisation of Sleep No More change at all or has it been the same for years?

1:10:11- The Heath

https://mckittrickhotel.com/the-heath/

1:11:28- Gallow Green

https://mckittrickhotel.com/gallow-green/

1:15:11- Colin Nightingale

Creative Producer, Punchdrunk International

http://immersivedesignsummit.com/colinnightingale.html

https://www.punchdrunk.com/

1:17:28- How big is the team that is programming ancillary spaces?

1:18:46- Sign up for mailings for upcoming events at McKittrick Hotel

https://mckittrickhotel.com/guestbook/

1:19:07- Marketing

1:19:46- Cesar touches on how they haven't spent any money on advertising

1:23:24- How has the High Line affected the show or has the show affected the High Line?

http://www.thehighline.org/

https://twitter.com/highlinenyc

1:25:05- How involved is Punchdrunk?

https://www.punchdrunk.com/

Find more of Cesar Hawas at:

https://mckittrickhotel.com/

https://www.instagram.com/cesarhawas/

https://twitter.com/heypiece?lang=en

http://lebalrevue.com/

Find more of Jacob Patterson at:

https://www.instagram.com/jmjpatterson

https://www.instagram.com/thinktankdtla

Find More of Dino Nama at:

https://www.instagram.com/nunquamdormio

https://www.instagram.com/thinktankdtla