Dive into The Giant Pod with Andy Wrintmore.

Joining Andy in this week's pod is Sculptor, Steve Swales. Steve talks all about getting his start, his 30 year career at Madame Tussauds, the tools & techniques of creating a wax-work, and how he earned the name 'Millimetre Man'.

Andy & Steve also discuss how there is often a gulf between perceptions of celebrities and how they are in person, the difficulty of capturing charisma, and what can go wrong when you are starstruck.

This wide ranging conversation contains first-hand encounters with Donald Trump, The Dalai Lama, Queen Elizabeth II and so many more.

Thanks to friend of the podcast Sarah Swales for making this episode possible.

STEVE SWALES ON ITV

THE CREATION OF MICHELLE KWAN

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