Alex Williams and co-host Donnie Burkholz are joined by Tal Klein of Adallom in this episode of The New Stack Analysts podcast, in which Tal’s recent article for The New Stack, "Architecting a SaaS and PaaS for the Neophyte Developer," is a touchstone for the discussion. Alex also brings up his George Plimpton moment at the Open Data Center Alliance, memorialized in "Who Knows How To Use AWS?"

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