In this episode, Jess and Kristen discuss Joni Mitchell, Max Martin, Mark Martin, James Taylor, and more. How do any of these people relate to the Taylor Swift album Red?? Slap that Play button to find out!

Red liner notes: https://genius.com/Taylor-swift-red-liner-notes-annotated

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