In this episode, Nick and AJ discuss White Sand, especially focusing on its place within the larger Cosmere!

Discussion points:

- Social media is hard

- The Dark Side of the Moon

- Face in the Clouds

- Magic system explanation

- Where else the sand appears, and how it is used

- Nick's Engineer is Showing

- Autonomy

-Worldhoppers Review - and why Khriss is frustrating, but Aarick is so interesting