**Summary:**
In Episode #185 Ari interviews Shivani Nazareth, the Director of Women’s Health at [Counsyl](https://www.counsyl.com/), a health technology and DNA-screening company that works to provide people insight into their predisposed genetic diseases using saliva and blood-based tests. Listen as Ari and Shivani talk about the importance of testing, why knowledge is empowering rather than limiting, and why fear isn’t a good reason to stay away from testing.
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