Session 187 recorded September 13, 1965: Dreams, Space, and the Jesuit Vibe

This session is a total mood, featuring Jane Roberts (Ruburt), Rob (Joseph), and their friends Bill and Peggy Gallagher, whom Seth affectionately roasts as the "Jesuit" and the "cat lover."

The Lowdown on Dream Reality

Seth decided to skip the "God concept" for a bit to talk about how your dreams aren't just random brain-movies. They are actually where the real work happens.

• Emotional Distance: Seth explains that distance isn't about miles; it's about how much you care. "The true reality of distance as you know it is dependent upon the intensity of emotion, and has nothing to do with your idea of space."
• Time Is a Lie: In the dream state, you’re not watching the clock. Intense emotions are experienced as "present," and you zip through intensities without feeling the "passing" of time.
• Dream Skills: You can do things in dreams that your waking ego is too scared to try—like talking to the dead or traveling across the globe in a blink. Seth says, "Theoretically speaking... anything that a personality can do or achieve in the sleeping state, he can do and achieve in the waking state."

The Science of the Spooky

Seth gets surprisingly "techy" here, explaining that dreams aren't just "gas" or imagination—they have a physical footprint.

• Chemical & Electrical Realities: Dreams are built on chemical components with an electrical basis. This is how they actually talk to your nervous system.
• The Brain Game: The pituitary gland is the MVP here, with the thyroid gland playing backup.
• Coded Survival: Everything you experience is deposited in "coded form" within your cells but stays independent of them. This is how you survive physical death—you’ve got a backup drive made of electrical reality.

Life Hacks: How to Not Get an Ulcer

Seth spends some time giving practical advice on how to use your brain so your body doesn't fall apart.

• Pre-Sleep Suggestions: Before you hit the hay, tell your subconscious to keep your body in one piece. Suggestions for "organic integrity" and "constructive tendencies" act as a shield.
• The Ulcer Connection: Seth points out that a man with an ulcer thinks differently than a man without one. "The ulcer is the result of his characteristic method of thought." Basically, stop stressing, or your thoughts will literally burn a hole in your stomach.
• Removing the Framework: Since we created the framework for our problems, we can dismantle them. It’s not "Pollyanna hogwash"; it’s just how the electrical reality of the mind works.

Entity Dynamics and Envelope Tests

The session ends with a bit of a party trick. Rob gives Jane a sealed envelope (a negative of a hotel in Maine), and Seth tries to guess what’s inside.

• The "Federal" Mistake: Seth picked up "federal building" because the hotel was large. He also correctly nailed the "four o'clock" timestamp of the photo.
• The "He" Situation: Seth calls Jane and Peggy "he." In the Seth world, entity names like Ruburt (Jane) and Aniac (Peggy) are male-oriented, though it has nothing to do with physical sex.
• The Cat Incident: While talking about Peggy’s fear of cats, the house cat, Willy, walked up and brushed against her on cue. Seth found this hilarious: "I am amused."

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