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189: Daniel Vitalis - SurThrival


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Summary:
In Episode #189 Ari interviews Daniel Vitalis of [SurThrival](http://www.surthrival.com/), a company that specializes in blending and supplying _quality_ natural supplements for an increasingly unnatural world. Listen as Ari and Daniel talk Elk Antler Spray, Pine Pollen, and hardcore nutritional history.
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Time Stamped Show Notes:
- 0:43- Introduction of [JustWorks](https://www.justworks.com/) and Isaac Oats
o 0:49- Just works helps small/medium business become compliant with payroll benefits
o 1:08- Entrepreneurs spend too much time filling out paper work
- 28:15- Introduction: Daniel Vitalis the founder of [SurThrival](http://www.surthrival.com/)
- 27:41- Daniel has been obsessed with the ancient past since childhood
- 28:07- What would you do without influence from others?
- 28:43- The term ‘Rewilding’ was coined by Daniel and has since been made into an extensive product line
o 29:06- Rewilding suggest that the domestic destruction we have created as a culture is reversible
o 29:38- We often fight our wild side—we must realign ourselves with our human biology
- 30:16- The four elements, earth, water, air, and fire represent our interaction with the community of life on this planet
- 30:38- The Office removes all four natural elements from our environment with processing
o 31:27- This isolated indoor environment does not foster life
- 31:55- Humans need to reincorporate natural things into life like healthy foods from farms and natural sunlight, air, water
- 32:29- We often get in our own way and prevent reconnection with nature
- 33:37- Is there a balance between urban and natural life?
- 34:04- Find what works for you
o 34:56- Often people are too connected to their office environment and forget to reconnect with the natural environment we came from
- 35:36- Elk Antler Velvet supplement
o 36:10- Everything at SurThrival is a crude food (unprocessed)
o 36:53- Buck antlers grow at 2 inches per day, they eventually fall of an regrow year after year
o 37:34- The rapid grown of antlers requires a lot of strong minerals and vitamins
o 38:31- Elk Antler Velvet is administered through a dropper and puts about 24 different growth factors into the body
- 42:04- Pine Pollen supplement
o 42:13- During pollen season, pine trees drop their sperm which is identical to testosterone in the human body
o 43:10- This type of testosterone is good for humans because it is a whole food
o 44:03- Pine Pollen is great for older men and women
- 45:13- Daniel tries to emulate natural people when creating his diet
o 45:23- The healthiest diet ever is the hunter-gatherer diet
o 45:29- Modern diets are based on agriculture and are often lower in nutrition
o 47:14- A low calorie, high nutrient diet lengthens lifespans
- 49:39- Intermittent fasting?
o 49:51- It is naturally good to feel some feast and famine
o 51:04- Domestication creates an environment where nothing changes, but really we should live cyclically where everything changes all the time
- 54:20- Daniel’s _Top 3 Tips to be More Effective_:
o 54:26- You have instincts that deserve to be listened to
o 55:09- Constantly adapt
o 55:52- Don’t become ultra-effective only to lose your health later in life
3 Key Points:
1. Adapt or die—seriously.
2. Don’t limit or restrict your inner-wilderness just because society has become overly-domesticated.
3. If you’ve never had an opportunity to try a hunter-gather diet—try it.
Resources Mentioned:
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