If you like chit-chat podcasts, this is the one for you! Youth minister Mickayla Hagar was our first ever TTH guest, and now she's back with us to talk about sainthood–– a topic that connects all of our guests and was on her heart while hiking the Camino since we last saw her.

Listen in as Olivia and Mickayla share their real and unfiltered thoughts on a burning desire for sainthood, authencity, and joy.

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