Katherine Vilchez is a counselor and instructor at several community colleges in San Diego, working specifically with programs that support underrepresented student populations.  Darielle Blevins is also a college counselor and instructor, who is earning a Ph.D in early child development. Our conversation focused on the unique experiences of first generation college students, mental/emotional needs of Black and Latino students, systemic oppression, and the specific challenges facing Black girls in education. Talking with these women is always a joy, so you’ll definitely be hearing more from them in the near future.