Musician and radio presenter Ella May Thomas talks about a shelf of various creative outlets and confidence boosters. Throughout the conversation we discuss the help and comfort of self-reflective media, the natural occurrences that can help build confidence and waiting for achievements to grow and develop instead of rushing into a crisis.

You can find more from Ella on Instagram.

Ella's website, with links to her music and radio show.

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Podcast artwork - Lily Fossett

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