In this episode we discuss Jonathan's hierarchy of hats, his 2 week long cross country trip, and our plans to upgrade our podcast studio. We talk about all of that and more, down to our Thanksgiving plans and a chance to get to know us a little bit better. Which one of us is most likely to stir up family drama? Or end up in jail? Who sleep talks the most? You'll have to listen to the episode to find out.

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