Alison Zapata is in dialogue with mixed media artist Natiq Jalil. Natiq Jalil is a self-taught artist who "believes that true art begins during those moments between being asleep and being awake." Listen in on the conversation about The Coloured Section, the questions people ask Black artists, and telling the stories of marginalized people. And by the way, don't buy his art if you plan on putting it in your bathroom.

https://artofnatiq.com/