It’s easier to numb ourselves than feel our pain. This helpful and insightful interview with Seth Haines (author of Coming Clean and the forthcoming The Book of Waking Up) shows us a way forward. We talk about so much: addiction, sobriety, political polarization, rhetoric, the church, and parenting. Don’t miss this one!

LINKS

Preorder Seth’s new book coming in January: The Book of Waking Up: https://amzn.to/2po4hUe

Seth’s book, Coming Clean: https://amzn.to/2oA7gsz

Seth’s website: http://www.sethhaines.com

Seth’s Patreon community: https://www.patreon.com/sethhaines

A video of John Michael Talbot Seth speaks about in the podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gma2z9GCPp8&t=228s

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“The primary addiction I notice is Facebook, Twitter, social media. We all use some method to numb pain.” @sethhaines

“When you’re the addiction guy, people confess these things.” @sethhaines

“Why don’t you think we have more robust ways to deal with pain?” @aahales asks @sethhaines on the #findingholypodcast

“I had to invite God into that pain through silence and solitude.” @sethhaines on #addiction, recovery, and pain on #findingholypodcast

“Personal transformation gave way to communal transformation.” @Sethhaines on the church, spiritual practices, and addiction on #findingholypodcast

“These are the things that keep you sober. Don’t live lives of isolation. Also the community is necessary.” Listen to @sethhaines on #findingholypodcast

“ The best thing we can do as parents is model lives of temperance.” @sethhaines @aahales #findingholypodcast

ONE SMALL STEP

Give yourself just 10 minutes a day of quiet. Start by making a list. Ask: Am I in a season of stress? Make a list of your stressors. Also consider the things you cannot not do — maybe you have to watch Netflix every night, or have a drink or a bowl of ice cream. Maybe you find yourself scrolling through social media whenever there’s a quiet moment, or shopping online, or getting enraged on social media.

When you go to these things, ask: what am I avoiding? Get curious about what those things do for you. I hope you’ll find some insight in the process.

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