Patric Versteeg, CISO at ISF Member organisation Viterra, and Paul Watts, former CISO now ISF Distinguished Analyst, share insights into the softer skills that have become imperative to the role of the security lead.

Patric debates methods to avoid burnout, and explains how a more inclusive way of working has made his working and personal life more productive and happier.

If you would like to find out more about the topics covered in this episode, get in touch with Mark Ward, Senior Research Analyst at the ISF.

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