Contagious Culture

#191 | Innovation Needs Laughter with Kathy Klotz-Guest


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In this episode of the Contagious Culture Podcast, Kyle King sits down with Kathy Klotz-Guest, keynote speaker, author, comedian, LinkedIn Learning instructor, and creator of BoldNet.

Kathy shares how humor, improv, and authenticity can help leaders build trust, reduce fear, and create cultures where people feel safe enough to take risks. She explains why many organizations get stuck in “innovation theater,” where teams talk about innovation but never create the conditions for real creativity, experimentation, or change.

Kyle and Kathy also discuss psychological safety, leadership vulnerability, positive humor, the power of “yes, and,” and why leaders must model the courage they want to see in their teams.

Key Topics:

  • Why humor builds trust and psychological safety
  • What “innovation theater” looks like inside organizations
  • How fear blocks creativity and risk-taking
  • Why leaders must model vulnerability and experimentation
  • The role of laughter in healthy team culture
  • How improv principles like “yes, and” strengthen collaboration
  • Why teams need support systems to be bold
  • How leaders can become one percent bolder every day
  • Episode History

    00:00 — Introduction

    00:18 — Meet Kathy Klotz-Guest
    01:22 — Who Kathy is beyond the titles
    02:48 — Reclaiming humanity inside corporate spaces
    03:00 — How Kathy’s work began
    05:45 — Moving from fragmentation to integration
    06:20 — Courage, comedy, and stepping outside your comfort zone
    08:40 — What innovation theater means
    10:44 — Fear, support, and the role of humor
    12:45 — Laughter as a measure of trust
    13:30 — How leaders can model psychological safety
    15:00 — Ritualizing mistakes and learning from failure
    16:20 — Building the ensemble through “yes, and”
    18:00 — Why old leadership models no longer work
    20:00 — Becoming one percent bolder every day
    21:45 — The meaning of “yes, and you”

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