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Summary

Mishna: A sukkah that is meduvleles (the gemara will explain this term) and one whose “shade is more than its sunlight”, is kosher.

A sukkah whose schach is thick like a solid roof is kosher even though the stars cannot be viewed from inside the sukkah (sometimes houses were made with thatched roofs, thus this sukkah would be indistinguishable from a house, but it still kosher).

Gemara:

Question: What is Meduvleles?

Rav: A sparse sukkah.

Shmuel: It means that the schach is uneven; there are two layers of sparse schach [from the top everything is covered, but the cover is not level]. (The top layer is at least 3 tefachim higher than the bottom layer, otherwise it’s considered one level).

According to Rav the mishna is saying one thing, “a sparse sukkah whose shade is more than its sunlight, is kosher”. According to Shmuel the mishna is saying two separate things, “a sukkah whose shade is more than its sunlight” is a separate law.

Rav says that a sukkah meduldeles [a sparse sukkah] whose shade is more than its sunlight is kosher.

Shmuel says that a sukkah mevulbeles [a confused sukkah that’s not level] is kosher and a sukkah whose shade is more than its sunlight is kosher.

Abayye: Shmuel’s law is only applicable when there is no 3 tefach airspace on the bottom level, if there’s 3 tefachim empty, then it’s not kosher.

Rava: If the upper level has a board that’s a tefach wide above the airspace, the sukkah remains kosher because of the rule that “Chavot Remi”, the tefach can be ‘knocked down’ from above. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate