Ben is joined this episode by two very special guests, Lena Barkin and Jess Jurkovic, in the middle of the hustle and bustle of LobbyCon during the waning hours of 32nd Gallifrey One! Everyone is in a jovial mood and celebrating with friends the conclusion of another great Doctor Who convention. The video of Lena's pitch for the 60th anniversary special can be viewed on Vimeo. Opening music is from The Claws of Axos and closing music is from "The Carnival of Monsters" composed by Dudley Simpson. We recorded this episode on 20 February 2022.