Alright, nerd alert.

Today’s guest, Bored Elon Musk, is just as big a nerdlinger as I am. Like we literally spend the first 20 minutes of the show talking about sci-fi movies, and how much the original Tron movie influenced both of us.

BEM (for short), is a career-gaming executive and major advocate for web3 gaming. I wanted him to come on the show, and tell us why he is so bullish (to the point where he has angel invested tons), and what it will take for games to break through.

He also helps iron out the different types of games that are played by the hundreds of millions, like Candy Crush, and how those may have even more potential than the big AAA names we’re expecting.