bm and w discuss ice and many other topics as they cannot seem to stay on track. along with this, there was a privacy scare and a mini and very informal debate (upcoming debates will be properly planned (hopefully)). they spent a very long time trying to figure out how da heck they 'upposed to get this episode on spotify, but alas, they figured it out. fun fact, they talked for 2 minutes before they realized that the mic was on mute and therefore had to re-record the opening. bthan was not pleased but he was quickly reminded of his 1% share and was soon cheered up. bm&w proudly present a mediocre podcast.