In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, we sit down with Jesse Johnson, a cybersecurity specialist, educator, and founder of Slay Security+. Jesse’s path into cyber is anything but traditional.

From law enforcement and IT support to defending healthcare systems and mentoring the next wave of cyber talent, Jesse has built a career rooted in resilience, service, and community.

We dive into:
- Jesse’s journey from criminal justice to cybersecurity and how his unique background shapes his approach.
- The story behind Slay Security+ and how it’s helping people pass the Security+ exam on their first attempt.
- What it’s really like to defend critical infrastructure in the healthcare sector.
- Practical advice for anyone trying to break into cybersecurity.
- Why creativity, from building cyber ranges to music, is a powerful tool in cyber.

Whether you’re just starting out, looking for motivation to push through the Security+ exam, or curious about the challenges of healthcare security, this conversation is packed with insight and inspiration.

👉 Don’t miss this one, it’s time to slay your way into cybersecurity!

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Welcome to today’s episode, where we dive into the human side of cybersecurity with one of the most fascinating voices in the industry—Perry Carpenter, Chief Human Risk Strategist at KnowBe4.

Perry brings a rare mix of technology expertise, behavioral science, and even stage magic to the world of cybersecurity. He’s the acclaimed author of Transformational Security Awareness and FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions. He also hosts two award-winning podcasts—8th Layer Insights and Digital Folklore—where he explores how stories, myths, and human behavior shape our digital lives.

In this conversation, we explore:

• Perry’s journey from psychology to leading human risk management in cybersecurity
• Why the “human layer” is both the weakest link and the greatest strength in security
• Practical ways behavioral science can reduce phishing and insider threats
• The alarming rise of AI-driven risks like deepfakes and disinformation—and how to prepare
• Why storytelling may just be the most powerful tool for building a resilient security culture
• The oddest, funniest, and most eye-opening stories Perry has seen in the human element of cybersecurity
• And his bold predictions for the next five years of cybersecurity awareness

You’ll walk away with a fresh perspective on why hackers don’t just target systems—they target people. And more importantly, how to turn human risk into human strength.

Connect with Perry Carpenter on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/perrycarpenter/
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Welcome to Season 7 of Two Cyber Chicks! In this episode, Erika and Jax are back and bolder than ever, diving into the wild ride that is cybersecurity in 2025.

From AI paranoia and geopolitical drama to industry BS we’re done pretending to care about, this is your no-holds-barred look at what’s really happening behind the headlines.

In this episode, we unpack:

• What’s keeping us up at night in cybersecurity
• What’s total hype vs. real threat in AI
• Tools, techniques, and stories we’re obsessing over
• Life updates: mom life, and writing books

This isn’t just shop talk it’s real talk with real women in cyber balancing life, leadership, and a whole lot of caffeine. Whether you’re deep in the trenches or just cyber-curious, there’s something here for you.

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In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, we sit down with David Cook, Director of National Security at ShadowDragon, to discuss the intersection of intelligence, cybersecurity, and geopolitics. With the 2024 election cycle in full swing and tensions rising globally, cyber threats against the U.S. are more complex than ever.

David, a seasoned national security expert with experience in special operations, OSINT, and congressional policy advising, breaks down how threat actors—state-sponsored and otherwise—are leveraging cyber tactics to exploit political instability. From election interference to critical infrastructure attacks, David shares his insights on what’s at stake, where the vulnerabilities lie, and how the U.S. can strengthen its cyber defenses in this volatile landscape.

Tune in to hear:

• The biggest cyber threats facing the U.S. during this election year
• How nation-state actors like Russia and China might escalate cyber attacks
• The role of OSINT and disinformation in modern cyber warfare
• What the U.S. government and private sector must do to stay ahead of cyber adversaries

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In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, we’re bringing the fun to cybersecurity with Bronwen Hudson, aka the Funniest Cyber Marketer of 2024 (allegedly!). As the Marketing Lead at Reveal Risk and a certified cyber pro, Bronwen has made it her mission to turn complex security topics into engaging, relatable content—and trust us, she’s really good at it.

We’ll be exploring her roller derby aspirations, her unique career journey from poetry to cybersecurity, and the magic behind making security not boring (yes, it's possible!). We’ll also explore the sometimes-rocky relationship between marketing and security teams, the future of cybersecurity content in the age of AI and automation, and how we can all become better communicators in boardrooms and online.

Tune in to hear:
✅ How Bronwen went from poetry to cybersecurity storytelling
✅ The secret sauce behind making technical topics fun and engaging
✅ Why marketing & security teams often clash—and how to bridge the gap
✅ The impact of AI and automation on cybersecurity content
✅ Expert communication tips for cybersecurity professionals

🎙 Get ready for a mix of laughs, insights, and some seriously good advice on making cybersecurity fun and engaging!

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• LinkedIn: Bronwen Hudson https://www.linkedin.com/in/bronwenhudson/

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In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, Erika and Jax discuss the rapidly evolving world of AI-powered cyber threats with Aaron Painter, CEO of Nametag Inc. and a deepfake expert. With cybercriminals leveraging AI to clone voices and fabricate identities, businesses face a growing threat from social engineering attacks.

Aaron shares insights on how his company is using AI and machine learning to fight back against deepfake attacks—especially in healthcare, IT, and insurance sectors, where identity fraud is skyrocketing. We break down what deepfakes are, how they impact individuals and organizations, and why Gartner predicts that by 2026, nearly one-third of enterprises will consider identity verification unreliable due to AI-generated deepfakes.

We also take a step back to discuss leadership in a digital age—drawing from Aaron’s experiences as a former Microsoft VP in China, CEO of Cloudreach in London, and author of Loyal—a leadership guide on building trust and long-term relationships.

Tune in to hear:
✅ The real dangers of deepfake technology and how AI is reshaping cybersecurity
✅ How threat actors are using AI to deceive helpdesk agents and bypass authentication
✅ Why identity verification is under attack and how Nametag is staying ahead of evolving threats
✅ Leadership lessons from Aaron’s global experience and tips on earning trust and loyalty in the workplace

🎙 Don’t miss this insightful conversation with one of the leading voices in AI-driven cybersecurity!

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In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, Jax and Erika sit down with Meenu Verma, a powerhouse Business Information Security Officer (BISO) with expertise in threat and vulnerability management, security architecture, and enterprise security strategy.

With a career spanning major organizations like Camelot Lottery Solutions, Savanti Consulting, and Affinity Water Limited, Meenu shares insights into the evolving cybersecurity landscape and how businesses can better align security with their strategic goals.

The conversation dives into the toughest challenges of being a BISO, key cybersecurity trends to watch in 2025, and the impact of AI on threat and vulnerability management. Meenu also opens up about her journey into cybersecurity, what keeps her passionate, and her experiences stepping onto the stage for speaking engagements.

If you’ve ever wondered how to balance security and business, stay ahead of AI-driven threats, or build confidence in public speaking, this episode is packed with practical advice and real-world insights.

Grab your coffee, sit back, and enjoy this candid convo with Meenu Verma!

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In this episode of 2 Cyber Chicks, Jax and Erika dive into the current state of the labor force and the macroeconomic factors shaping the job market. With roles being eliminated, a shift towards junior positions, and companies expecting employees to do more with less, it’s more important than ever to be strategic in your job search and professional growth.

We break down how to work with hiring managers, navigate AI filtering in job applications, and hack the job market with smart interview techniques. Plus, we share actionable tips and tricks to stand out in a crowded market.

Beyond job hunting, we talk about the importance of being intentional in networking, building deeper connections without meeting in person, and how to support your LinkedIn network. We’re also throwing down a challenge—take a moment today to write a LinkedIn recommendation for someone in your network!

Tune in to hear:
 ✅ How to adapt to a changing job market and stay competitive
 ✅ Insider tips on navigating AI filters and standing out in interviews
 ✅ The best ways to connect authentically in a digital world
 ✅ Why giving LinkedIn recommendations can strengthen your network
 ✅ How being intentional can create meaningful relationships in your career

🎙 This is a must-listen for anyone looking to grow their career, job seekers wanting an edge, and professionals striving for deeper connections in a digital-first world.

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In this episode, Jax and Erika sit down with Andrey S., Co-Founder and CEO of BrightSide AI, to explore how generative AI is transforming the cyber threat landscape.

From the evolution of email phishing to the real-world impact of deepfakes, Andrey breaks down why traditional security measures are no longer enough. He also reveals how BrightSide’s hands-on approach helps individuals and organizations safeguard personal data and maintain trust in an era where the lines between real and fake are fast disappearing.

If you’re looking to stay ahead of AI-driven attacks—and keep your team and family secure—this conversation is your essential guide.

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Erika and Jax chat with Elizabeth Lotardo about her recent book, Leading Yourself.

Tune in as the trio talk about the concept of Self-Leadership, discussing how to provide feedback and avoid awkward conversations.

In this episode, you'll walk away with valuable tools to add to your leadership toolkit. Whether you're an individual contributor or an executive, there's something for everyone to help you up level your leadership in all areas of life.

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