We discuss the use of our pronouns in the Divine episode, how Niko and Matthew met, why they want to do this podcast, and the life and work of Elaine Stritch. Why is she a gay and queer icon? 

Additional audio from 30 Rock and 92Y. 

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Links to our recommended videos

Who Killed Teddy Bear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCTNN46q8BM&t=2434s

Elaine Stritch at Liberty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNKzYaUzFWs

There are many 30 Rock clips to view on YouTube.