Kendall interviews her friend, a boy named Barbara, and they talk about breaking out of conventional containers, and learning how to trust yourself. They also discuss what holds us back from pursuing our dreams, love that is based in fear, and the expansive nature of growth.

You don't want to miss this incredibly joyful conversation!

If you'd like to follow Barbara for updates on his album release and upcoming tour dates, follow him on Instagram at:

@aboynamedbarbara

@calcalhudson

You can find information about the podcast on Instagram at:

@kendalllamb.wanders