Laurence Lord and Jeffrey Bolhuis together run AP+E, (Architecture, Practice and Experimentation), an architecture office based in Ireland and The Netherlands. The office has a strong interest in the social and cultural value of architecture and has gained a reputation for working internationally on a wide range of cultural, educational, residential projects as well as completing innovative urban and regional development studies, research projects and significant exhibitions. Among other topics, this conversation between the architects and host Emmett Scanlon, covers their involvement in FREE MARKET, the national pavilion of Ireland at the 2018 Venice Biennale, the potency of the exhibition in architecture and how their practice is structured to seek and support collaboration from an ever expanding network. Laurence is a Lecturer at Queens University Belfast and Jeffrey teachers architecture at the Cork Centre for Architectural Education and the T.U. Delft.