In the first podcast together. Jobie and Abigail introduce discuss challenges they are facing as small business owners and how much the economy and life situations have impacted them.

They touch on surrender in a season of loss and refer to The Surrender Project as being a source of wisdom in navigating and embracing what life throws at them.

This intro podcast sets the scene for Part 2 which is when they take a deep dive into Jobie’s time in Venezuela and how much it impacted his life.