I sit down with my good friends Kai Barger and Kain Daly, we crack open a few beers and talk about surfing, the "core" surf culture, "The Ultimate Surfer", and more.

0:00:00 - Opening

0:06:45 - Kai Barger on "The Ultimate Surfer"

0:21:25 - Kai's Interview Process for "TUS"

0:48:10 - Was the drama real?

1:03:08 - Commitment and striving to be the best.

1:09:10 - Kai's slab wave.

1:20:15 - Kain's story getting chased by seals.

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