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In this weeks episode Alexandra and Jules speak to trans activist and fellow member of The Stairlings Collective - Lilith Ferreyra-Carroll. The episode begins with Lilith speaking about the significance of a pair of headphone in her transition and career before recommending some must read zines for the trans community and their partners. A really great listen.

Find Lilith @trasinscneach

Checkout thestairlingscollective.com

Sound, Editing and Production by @jordanhearns

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