Today's guest is one of my favorite people to hang with at open mics/shows. She's a talented comic and all around funny person its McKenzie Ruiz! On today's episode we discuss the current shelter in place order and what that has done to the Santa Cruz comedy scene. I admit my childhood fears and we also talk about her recent adventure into her attic and what she found and how placing high expectations on things does more harm than good.

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