Join James Whitt with domestic violence advocate Elsa Swenson in a discussion about how she learned how to operate from love rather than from judgment.

"The first time that I dabbled in [victim advocacy] was working with people who were severely mentally ill…all of them had been abused in some capacity. That job helped me recognize that every word you say can do damage or convey love and acceptance…that was one of the most formative jobs I’ve ever had. Those women will never know how much they shaped my life.” - Elsa Swenson

• 3:00 Leadership lessons learned via humility (from an Enneagram Type 3 perspective)


• 10:00 Creating and holding space in difficult situations


• 15:00 Challenging dualistic thinking in victim advocacy settings


• 19:00 Even the nameless shape our Becoming


• 22:00 Defensive love-- can it become mismanaged?


• 26:00 But what about the kids? When does the victim shift to the villain?


• 30:00 When awareness calls you to trudge against the status quo

The music from today's show is by Ian Crawford. He's an incredibly creative musician who I've watched play the French horn and the keyboard while also intermixing stand-up comedy. Check him out! He's a hilarious, kind, and artistic human worth having between your ears.

The organization we mentioned is Missions Inc. Programs. You can learn more about their good work here.

If you think or know you might be a victim of violence, Text START to 88788 or call 1-800-799-7233

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