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Pat Leaper is one of the founders of Red Oak Realty in Berkeley, CA (founded in 1976). Red Oak Realty is where I've hung my license since 2010. There's some great industry and local history here and we also talk about best agent practices, what are the resources and methods that successful agents use, the formation of Red Oak, ethics then and now, real estate practice then and now, alcoholism, being an agent vs being a broker, drive and empathy, ambition and success, coronavirus: impact on the market, list vs sales price, what to ready ourselves for in the next couple of years. Pat Leaper is a licensed CA Realtor® DRE# 00408309