Dee and Sandra talk about The Lift, a nonprofit they started fifteen years ago in Saint Paul. Hear stories about its early days, what it looks like now, and what it means to get comfortable occupying the fear zone.

Send us your own questions about race, division, and social blunders at weshouldntevenknoweachother@gmail.com. You can support this show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/weshouldntevenknoweachother.

Dee and Sandra talk about The Lift, a nonprofit they started fifteen years ago in Saint Paul. Hear stories about its early days, what it looks like now, and what it means to get comfortable occupying the fear zone. Send us your own questions about race, division, and social blunders at weshouldntevenknoweachother@gmail.com. You can support this show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/weshouldntevenknoweachother.

2. The Fear Zone

How do you build meaningful relationships across social divides? In this show, hosts Dee and Sandra share stories from building their unusual friendship and discuss where they see issues of race and power playing out in those stories.

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2. The Fear Zone

2. The Fear Zone