I talk to Sal Jefferies, mind-body expert and coach. He's someone I've wanted to talk to ever since I dreamed up the idea of a podcast. What makes Sal's approach so interesting is the combination of the conventional with the cutting edge. We talk about why thinking about the mind and body as separate is a mistake. There's a discussion about how helpful emotions are (or not), and why presence is so vital. We also talk about the importance of community to personal development.