In this episode, Fabio Duarte interviews Joca Torres, one of the most experienced product leaders in Brazil, to dive into his journey from building internet companies in the '90s to leading global product teams at companies like Gympass and Lopes. They explore how Brazilian professionals approach product differently, what it takes to succeed across cultures, and how to structure teams for real impact, no matter the country.

Key Topics Discussed:

➡️ How Joca’s product mindset started before the role even existed

➡️ The pros and cons of leading product and tech under the same hat

➡️ Team topologies: by product, journey, or persona?

➡️ Cultural nuances when building products for global markets

➡️ Why Brazilian PMs are gaining recognition worldwide

➡️ What companies need to understand about product culture

➡️ Why transformation doesn’t happen by decree — but by results