In this episode I talk to Zoe Hamill about her current work-in-progress Control, with additional tangents on dressage, horse text books as bedtime stories, the names of horse bits, kinky sex stuff, 'Uncle Phil' from Fresh Prince and the necessary question of a project's production as part of its greater meaning. 

You can stalk Zoe online here.

A note on audio: apologies - I'm aware of the problems with background noise during the interviews and will record future episodes in a quieter environment. Hopefully for now it can be a nice bit of pub ASMR for everyone in lockdown! For those with hearing impairments, or for anyone who wants visuals to accompany this chat, this episode is available as a subtitled video on Youtube here.

A word of warning: all episodes will more than likely contain swearing, this is part of the informal nature of these dialogues. Please take this into account if explicit language is likely to offend.

Stay tuned for Episode 3 to hear from Erin Semple!