This week Jules & Phoebe are joined by Asad Dhunna (@asadd, Founder of the Unmistakables (@_unmistakables), a consultancy that is making diversity everyone's business, and former Director of Communications for Pride in London. They discuss brown people centering themselves during the #blacklivesmatter debate, addressing anti-blackness within BAME communities and the need for brown people to stand with the black community.

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