In this episode, Rob talks with the Reverend Callista Isabelle who is the new Director for Religious, Spiritual, and Ethical Life at Washington University in St Louis in a role where she promotes interfaith understanding and dialogue. Rob and Callista talk about both her past history and her new role at WashU in a conversation that ranges from discussion of a "speed-faithing" event she hosted last November to choir advice and life wisdom rolled into one: "listen louder than you sing" to how wrestling drove Rob to religion when he was in college.