On this episode of Always Sometimes, multidisciplinary artist Clee McCracken joins me to discuss cell phones, sundials, being an artist online, Halloween costumes, friendship, wardrobe parameters, and political stan culture.

Recorded 3/25/24. Hosted and produced by Tom.

You can follow Clee on Instagram at @clockluvr.

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