In this episode we talk with Dr. John Balbus, a tireless climate advocate and the inaugural director of the Office of Climate Change and Health Equity within HHS. In the last year, the climate movement has faced many setbacks requiring more resilience, courage, and joy. In this conversation, we explore how to support this work and these feelings amid uncertainty, while charting through Dr. Balbus' illustrious career. 

Episode Written by Phoebe Cunningham and Elizabeth Whidden, Produced by Natasha Sood, and Edited by Liana Haigis and Dhivya Arasappan.