Trent catches up with former teammate Jawad Williams. Jawad is a former national champion at UNC and has played professionally all over the world, including the NBA.

Trent and Jawad discuss:
- beating Illinois to win the NCAA Championship
- Lebron's leadership in the locker room
- writing & Jawad's children's books
- not watching the scoreboard
- instilling sacrifice and resilience in his kids
- coming back from an achilles tear in his mid 30's
- living in the moment and more...

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