The drive to create, encouraging confidence in an art class, how to observe before you draw, are all part of a chat with Kate (@katehardystudio) sitting outside Chisenhale Art Place. "It's hugely satisfying get to a place where you go 'OK this is how I want this painting to be'... it's not like I knew it was going to end up there." #otherlivesareavailable #podcast #eastlondon #artist