Tom Cruise made the school famous, but the real action at TOPGUN is with the pilots who actually graduated in real life.  Retired F/A-18 pilot and TOPGUN instructor Guy Snodgrass gives us an inside look at what makes TOPGUN tick - from both the student and instructor perspective.  In our conversation, Guy and I discuss:

+What it takes to get into and thrive at TOPGUN

+How aviation debriefs apply to the civilian world

+Artificial intelligence's future (?) role in fighter aviation

+How an engineer and fighter pilot becomes a writer for the Secretary of Defense