In this conversation, we discuss the European Commission's recent specification proceedings against Google under the Digital Markets Act (DMA), which touches upon its AI features. We explore the implications of vertical interoperability, the role of operating systems in AI development, and the challenges of ensuring fair competition in the rapidly evolving AI landscape. The discussion highlights the need for regulatory measures to prevent monopolisation and promote contestability in digital markets, particularly as AI technologies continue to advance.Throughout the conversation, we also remark on the European Commission's previous specification proceeding, brought against Apple under the vertical interoperability obligation. You can find it here: https://digital-markets-act.ec.europa.eu/commission-starts-first-proceedings-specify-apples-interoperability-obligations-under-digital-2024-09-19_en.To learn more about Dr. Alba Ribera Martínez and her research, we invite you to visit her website: https://www.albariberamartinez.com.She also writes, from time to time, in her newsletter, the DMA Agora, about the latest developments surrounding the European regulation: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7344021393451184128.